Episode

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Allegiance

A tale of two Picards – one is trapped in a cell with three strangers, the other tries to spark a romance with Dr. Crusher. Will the real Picard make it back to the Enterprise before the imposter can break into song again?

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Discussion

  1. Brendan Foster says:

    if the aliens have no concept of authority then who gives the order to conduct the study in the first place?

  2. CmdrR says:

    Does Esoqq subsist entirely on spaghetti and soup or does his jaw unhinge when he’s going to eat a roommate?

  3. Lou Dalmaso says:

    What are little Picards made of?.
    For some reason, I just assumed that the “not-Picard” was a member of the alien race who was just “playing” Picard with the assist of all of Picard’s memories. It does open the plot hole of why Troi couldn’t tell the difference.

  4. Wildride says:

    “POISON!”

  5. FeltLuke says:

    Yet another instance of an alien race too stupid to have survived as long as they have, or at least to have reached the technological level that they have.

  6. Muthsarah says:

    I typically never cared much for “Allegiance”, considering it one of Season Three’s rare disappointments, though every episode (barring maybe “A Matter of Perspective”) has its strong points. Just felt like a low-budget one-act play with too-simple characters representing parts of a straw-mannish argument the writer is making, but paired with yet another “the crew takes too long to realize something’s so obviously wrong and do something about it” ep.

    But I never zeroed in on the subtler bits you pointed out, the Picard/Riker scene, how this is/may be one of Dr. Crusher’s better episodes (Season Three was her best season, I’m guessing). Definitely something to look forward to in an upcoming re-viewing. It probably won’t change too much (John enthusiasm for this episode is really puzzling), but anything to add depth and nuance could only help an episode like this one.

  7. deaddropsd says:

    Pretty average episode…things I remember wondering about…
    1. no nametags on Starfleet uniforms…just the impracticality of it all. of course Picard had to identify himself to “cadet” Haro, he has no nametag!
    2. once again, the intro of a species but never or rarely see them again. I always wished for a Bolian to get more screen time. Mizarians, the Chalnoth..woulda been nice to see them again. That goes for so many races.
    3. That woulda been hilarious if the Worf had killed the intruders! With his shield cylinder misinterpreting Picards gestures…did we even reveal the name of this abductor race?
    4. Silly that this race had never experienced captivity or had no idea it was unpleasant, but I guess if they were just emerging from their system, but happened to have this kick ass tech.

    • wry observer of folly says:

      A Mizarian does show up in Generations during the evacuation sequence. It for all of a second.

  8. deaddropsd says:

    Reiner Schone “Essoq” of Chalnoth

  9. deaddropsd says:

    Stephen Markle “Kova Tholl” of Mizar II- hard to tell, I think this is correct…lol

  10. deaddropsd says:

    I feel like this is an online class…I review the episode on Mon or Tues in anticipation for downloading the podcast on Thursday @ 0001, yup…usually for lots of posts, commentary and pics from Thursday to Sunday…lol, Just watched “Captains Holiday”- hahaha, I even take notes sometimes…hahaha, anyone else?

    • We love how that works out – and you are not alone! A lot of people we hear from do the same thing. Awesome that everyone chimes in a day or two later with their takes on an episode.

  11. deaddropsd says:

    Michael Champion…male Vorgon

  12. deaddropsd says:

    Karen Landry female Vorgon “Ajur”

  13. Dave Steph Taylor says:

    My favorite parts are the Crusher/Picard moments. Awkward discussion latter.

  14. Muthsarah says:

    I just re-watched “Allegiance” for the first time in a few years. The script feels sparse and simple (at first), and the guest aliens are one-note and rather silly in a Doctor Who way, and I think that’s a big reason why I don’t remember the episode being very interesting. The thing is, it’s not sparse or simple at all, just kinda slow. But it’s also well-directed, and I suspect I’d gotten used to just having the episode in the background instead of actually looking at it, and so feeling like there isn’t a lot going on.

    This episode did a lot of interesting things with its subdued lighting and frequent close-ups (with the Picard/Riker scene being the most striking example, but one of many). It has a Season Two-type script, very slow, taking too long to get its point across, and I suspect the episode’s poor pacing is based more on that, but it’s directed with a dramatic, at times German Expressionist, eye. A better script might have done more with how rule-bound Data would respond to Riker’s conspiracy to mutiny (shades of Doomsday Machine?), or expand on Esoqq’s aggressiveness and paranoia instead of only allowing him to posture and bare his teeth (to which, I guess he has no alternative…), but, structured as it is, there probably wasn’t enough room to let the ideas or characters breathe. I suspect a lot was cut out to simplify the story and be able to fit in both halves, but that left few details to make each part fully rounded, and the remainder had to be stretched. I’d like to know more about the initial script, or even the pitch.

    It’s a shame to have an episode with too many ideas to fit in 44 minutes, but I think I have to conclude that the script was overly-ambitious. There is good stuff here. With a little more polishing, and the same director, it coulda really been something.

  15. Endocrom . says:

    I am one of those 3 that read Who Censored Roger Rabbit and yeah, this Picard isn’t a “dopple”. Just an alien in a Picard suit.

  16. Gene C. Fedderly says:

    It was great to hear the duplicate Picard singing “Heart of Oak” in 10 Forward. This is song is still the official march past of the Royal Navy, the Royal Canadian Navy, and the Royal New Zealand Navy,

  17. John Anderton says:

    Picard shows off his great acting ability in this inoffensive episode. To bad they couldn’t think of an ending. But it must be hard to come up with great stories every week.